Inline Citations, page numbers

[Rondonraita]

Ok, I guess this is a daft question, but I just can't figure out what I'm doing wrong:

I'm trying to set up a customised format for bibliography and inline citations. For the latter, I need (Author, Date: cited page or page range).
What I did was (a, d: p-).
After formatting I get something like (Miller, 2010: p-): that is despite the fact that in the temporary citation I had the @210-213; for example.
Help please....

[Jon]

You're mixing different elements together. You should not have "p-" in the format for citations -- that will output the page range entered in the reference, not the cited pages. From what I understand of what you want, the format for citations should be

a, d:

and the temp citation should look something like

{Miller, 2010 #123343@210-213}

BTW, in your format, you have to tell Bookends what to output before and after the pages you cite. Something like: ", p. " (before) and "." (after).

Jon
Sonny Software

[Rondonraita]

Oh great! Fast reply, thanks a lot

[Jon]

One small change to my advice.

The format should be

a, d

The colon should be specified in the Cited Pages section in the format, to be used only when there are cited pages.

Before: ": "

After: "." or whatever you want.

Jon
Sonny Software

[Rondonraita]

Tahnk you, I was wondering about it, but just found it out myself, which makes me feel smart now
One other question regarding the bibliography:
I use the following for journal articles:
a. “t.” f v$, no. $i` `(d): p-.

It works fine for most references. However, I have some in my library that do not have page numbers (because they refer to weird magazines). Quite logically, I get a colon after the date and nothing more. This looks odd....
I want it to end with "(d)." in this case...
how do I specify: only give me "(d): p-." if there are actually page numbers in the field, otherwise do "(d)." ?

(btw. I am consulting the user manual, I just really and honestly don't get it!)

[ozean]

In that case you need to use Bookends’ great conditional formatting functionality. If you enter your format as follows:

a. “t.” f v$, no. $i` `{(d): p-^(d)}`.`

then things should work as expected.

The curly brackets are processed in order from one part ending with the ^ character to the next (or the end of the curly bracket). If all variables that are in the part are present (such as d for date and p for page number) then that part of the conditional formatting bracket will be used. If not, the next part is checked and used if the variable(s) are present (such as the d for date), and so forth…

Hope this helps!

[Rondonraita]

Thanks so much! I really don't know why I'm so hopeless with that... I'll give it a go!
I really appreciate the support in the forum

[Rondonraita]

Ha! I know I shouldn't be bragging, but I think I've got it now, and I DO like Bookends much better now, feeling more in control
{a. “t.” f v$, no. $i` `^f. v$, no. $i` ` “t.”} {(d): p-^(d)}`.

Ha! Thanks everyone!

[Rondonraita]

Ok... too over enthusiastic...
This gives me only the date in the bibliography when there is no author...
If somebody could have a go at this, there are two variables here:
1. author / no author
2. pages / no pages

if there is no author, I want Bookends to use the journal title instead
if there are no page numbers, I want the bibliography entry to end with (d).

How can I combine two conditional formats?

[Jon]

The order you posted works as expected in my hands.

Please take a look at the User Guide (Help Menu) to see how conditional grouping works. If you still have questions, please follow up with tech support.

Jon
Sonny Software