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To endnote and back again . . .

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I was in the middle of revising my dissertation when dragon for the Mac died. Discontinued to be precise. So as I'm working on revisions I've been dictating them in Word for windows using Dragon for windows and Endnote. However,I really do not want to do the final version In word on either platform. The dissertation was completed originally in Mellel. I want to format the final version in Mellel as well (Word for windows or Mac cannot get the footnotes right In terms of format). Is there a good way to get Bookends to see the citations in the imported document from word that were done in Endnote? Or am I going to be forced to simply do a manual update and replace all the way through the revisions? Thank you for whatever input you have the time to give me.
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Please see if this FAQ helps.

https://www.sonnysoftware.com/faq/faq.h ... _that_have

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That looks promising! I will try ASAP and report back. Once I get the citations in word to match bookends then I can easily import into Mellel, or at least that seems right. Thank you!
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Re: To endnote and back again . . .

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jzents wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:27 pm
Word for windows or Mac cannot get the footnotes right in terms of format
Just curious, what kind of footnote format do you need exactly?

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Well, to be fair Word can get it if I write a macro. The problem stems from the fact that Word uses the same style for both the number in the text and the number in the note. So if you want the note number to be non-superscripted you have to change the number in the note manually, or with a macro. If you change the style then the number in the text is not superscripted.This is not a problem in WordPerfect, Pages, Nisus, Mellel or Libre Office. I have never found a way around this except for a macro.
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It just occurred to me, can one do this in reverse? Export from Bookends and put into an empty Endnote DB? Or does that not work? Any ideas?
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You can certainly export from Bookends (as EndNote XML) and import that into an EndNote database.

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I am not seeing a way to export the DB as a whole, am I missing something? Or am I right in thinking that I need to do a search or something analogous to that and then export the "hits"?
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That's right. In All, just click on the marked checkbox for ONE reference with the Shift key held down -- all references will now be made Hits.

Or use the Refs -> Mark All menu.

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Thank you very much!
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Hit a roadblock. It turned out that the simplest thing to do was to open the document in word for Mac and re-enter the citations from bookends that way. I did that. I then import of the document into Mellel 4. However, I now have a new problem. I cannot get this document to scan. The citations were all entered by bookends. All I did was add page numbers. Any suggestions, or do you want me to attach the file? I am going to attach the Mellel file for your reference. Or rather I was, but it won't let me. It says it is an invalid fill type. And yes I tried unscanning it in Word before I did the import to Mellel. Did not help. It scans fine in Word. Any suggestions on what I should look at?
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Did you turn them in to reference object in Mellel? Edit -> Bibliography -> Convert Text To Citations.

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Re: To endnote and back again . . .

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No, because that would have meant that I am intelligent. I am not! Sorry to have missed that, since I think I went through something similar when I came to Mellel from Scrivener. Thanks for the quick reply!
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