Display of Citation within the text

[sbr287]

Apologies if this question is answered elsewhere; I looked but could not find anything to solve the issue below:

I am just getting started using BE (having purchased a copy a couple of years ago). I often wish to include references in the text in a way that includes the year, but not the author's name. For example, the normal form of citation in the body of the text is:

"Prior research has found a strong relation between sproggets and antelope (Jones, 1989; Smith 2005) and found it to be robust."

However, I cannot see how to get the author's name to NOT appear within the citation, as in:
"Prior research has found a strong relation between sproggets and antelope (Jones, 1989; Smith 2005) and found it to be robust but Robinson (2007) casts doubt upon these earlier findings."

How do I get the Robinson reference to appear in the desired way?

(I understand from the guide that I can include extra text to appear before the citation by using \ - so that
"this sentence would eventually {\see also \ Jones, 1989,215} appear as" "this sentence would eventually (see also Jones, 1989) appear as" )

TIA

StephenB

[Jon]

There are several ways to accomplish what you want, but the most direct is to use the ^ at the beginning of the temp citation:

{^Robinson, 2007, #3234234}

Jon
Sonny Software

[sbr287]

Jon

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it looks as if I am missing something in your explanation because using the caret does not give me what I want. Could you please help again? Thank you.

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In the area of accounting for post-retirement benefits, Feldstein and Morck {Feldstein, 1983, #757} find weak evidence that the explanatory power of a model……….
becomes:
In the area of accounting for post-retirement benefits, Feldstein and Morck (Feldstein and Morck, 1983) find weak evidence that the explanatory power of a model……….

but,
In the area of accounting for post-retirement benefits, Feldstein and Morck {^Feldstein, 1983, #757} find weak evidence that the explanatory power of a model …………………
becomes:
In the area of accounting for post-retirement benefits, Feldstein and Morck (^Feldstein and Morck, 1983) find weak evidence that the explanatory power of a model …………………

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StephenB (of Huntington Terrace)

[Jon]

Two things:

1. The ^ should have placed the authors in front. What word processor are you using? What format?

2. You're doing it wrong. You entered the authors names in the text. The ^ will also put them in the text, so they would be repeated. If you want to remove the authors from the final citation, use - (a dash) in front (or % if you want just the date output). Please see the user guide, starting on p. 177, for all the metacharacters you can use to alter the final citation. And use Edit -> Copy Citation and Modifiers to let Bookends create them for you automatically.

Jon
Sonny Software

[sbr287]

Jon
Thank you.

I regret that I could find anything in the User Guide that explains how/why using of a caret in the way way you suggest, but no matter. Now I know the terminology, I can find what how to do what I require. In my version of the Guide, it's on page 165 and 166.
(I include the text below so that it will be searchable within this forum should anyone else have the same issue.)

StephenB

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How to ensure that in-text citations appear with just the date

"If you are using a format with the Author-Date style (e.g., Smith, 1998) or a custom citation, you can force
Bookends to replace the temporary in-text citation with only the date. (The temporary citation is what appears in the document using curly braces prior to the scanning process by Bookends; the scanning process replaces the curly braced citation with something in parentheses.)
To do this, place a % (the percent symbol) immediately before the citation. For example, this in-text citation:
{Anderson, 1994; %Anderson, 1995; %Anderson, Journal of Nutrition, 1997; %Anderson, Vitamin Research, 1997}
might appear in the revised document as:
(Anderson, 1994, 1995, 1997a, 1997b)


To eliminate authors from final citation
If the first character of a temporary citation is a - (hyphen or dash), Bookends will exclude the authors (or editors) from the final citation. For example:
{-Anderson, 1994, information_to_enable_Bookends_to_identify_required_citation}
might appear as:
(1994)
When used with an author-date format, this is identical to using a % (show date only). But when used with a custom citation format, all the elements in the final citation will appear except authors/editors.

[Jon]

What version of Bookends are you using? The ^ was added in the last year or so. If you bought Bookends 11, you should be using 11.1.7. If you're using Bookends 10.x the caret won't work (but the other metacharacters will).

Jon
Sonny Software

[sbr287]

Aha - that explains it. I have only just started using Bookends, even though I bought a copy a while ago so it's version 10 that I'm running (with MSWord 2008).

I have just checked - and it's nearly 3 years! In the last few years, the main drafting of papers I have been working on has been by my co-authors, while I have been concentrating on the statistical analysis.

Thanks again.

[jss366]

I'm getting weird problems with citations using the caret ^ to extract the author name from parentheses. It worked fine, but now when I review the citation there is a line break added after the caret. The final text loses the name completely.
**Update: Not sure of the cause but this was fixed with a restart of Mellel and Bookends.

[Jon]

This is a tech support issue, not a forum discussion. Please contact tech support directly.

Jon
Sonny Software