BOOKENDS BLEW UP

spr · Post by **spr** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:46 pm

Using Bookends a week or so.

Have a database of 10,022 books. Adding 12 more. Transferred 6 and froze. Time after time after time.

Now just shuts down upon opening.

Now what?

Copied database to Desktop; hope I saved it!
Not going to be a happy camper if I didn't.

spr

spr · Post by **spr** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:29 am

Repaired permissions twice ('til clear.)

Tried to rebuild database...
just shuts down.

Too corrupted?

Not a good thing.

spr

ozean · Post by **ozean** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:32 am

I would recommend sending your database and a description of what happened to sonnysoftware. I would be pretty sure that Jon will take a look at it and fix it if at all possible.

Post by **Jon** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:41 am

That is right -- you should contact tech support.

Two general comments:

1. With a db that large, you must increase internal database cache for decent performance and stability. For 10,000 refs I'd go to 15-20 MB.

2. Backups are essential for any valuable file, database or not.

Jon
Sonny Software

spr · Post by **spr** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:06 am

Hi folks--

Upped cache to 100M (why skimp?)

Still no go.

Contacted Tech Support, so we'll see. I sure would love to save it.

RE backup--
I could show you the 15 or so emails I've sent out in the past two weeks
about precisely that. I've been trying to make an image of the entire HD, but have found it hard going trying to get instructions on doing exactly what I had in mind. As a matter of fact, before this happened I already had plans to go to Apple today. (CCC doesn't support Tiger.)

Best intentions aren't worth much, are they?

Anyway, THANK YOU for your help, Jon. I know you guys will do everything possible to try to salvage this 'monster.'

Blessings,
Steve

Post by **Jon** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:35 am

For those of you following at home, we were able to recover all of the references in spr's database.

Jon
Sonny Software

Adelheid · Post by **Adelheid** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:00 pm

spr wrote:RE backup--
I've been trying to make an image of the entire HD, but have found it hard going trying to get instructions on doing exactly what I had in mind

I have been able to make bootable backups (clones) of an iBook with Tiger installed, using Mimmac. Worked like a charm. If you need more info, let me know.

Regards,
Adelheid

matthias · Post by **matthias** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:19 am

Adelheid wrote:
spr wrote:RE backup--
I've been trying to make an image of the entire HD, but have found it hard going trying to get instructions on doing exactly what I had in mind
I have been able to make bootable backups (clones) of an iBook with Tiger installed, using Mimmac. Worked like a charm. If you need more info, let me know.

Regards,
Adelheid

Hi Adelheid,

I would be very interested how you managed to do this. I was always under the impression that only ccc can do that, but that ccc is not yet working with tiger. Actually this is one of the main reasons why I have not yet switched to Tiger.

Matthias

odysseus · Post by **odysseus** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:12 pm

Jon wrote:For those of you following at home, we were able to recover all of the references in spr's database.

Care to share what went wrong with the database?

odysseus · Post by **odysseus** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:13 pm

matthias wrote:I was always under the impression that only ccc can do that, but that ccc is not yet working with tiger. Actually this is one of the main reasons why I have not yet switched to Tiger.

Matthias, you're silly -- or just cheap. SuperDuper! is more flexible than CCC, and works perfectly under Tiger!

Post by **Jon** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:20 pm

[quote="odysseus"Care to share what went wrong with the database?[/quote]

I'm not sure I remember exactly now. I think I used a larger (15 MB or so) cache, and was able to open the database by setting Reference View as the default in Preferences. Then I selected All references (made them hits), exported to a Bookends file, and then imported that file to a fresh database. All recovered.

Jon
Sonny Software

odysseus · Post by **odysseus** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:23 pm

Jon wrote:

I'm not sure I remember exactly now. I think I used a larger (15 MB or so) cache, and was able to open the database by setting Reference View as the default in Preferences. Then I selected All references (made them hits), exported to a Bookends file, and then imported that file to a fresh database. All recovered.[/quote]

Does this kind of thing (i.e. database corruption) occur from time to time?

Post by **Jon** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:35 pm

It can. It's getting to be less and less of any issue as the database engine is undergoing constant improvement, but yes it can (even a Word document can become corrupted). That's why I repeat, keep good backups (for any valuable file, including databases).

Jon
Sonny Software

matthias · Post by **matthias** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:46 pm

odysseus wrote: Matthias, you're silly -- or just cheap. SuperDuper! is more flexible than CCC, and works perfectly under Tiger!

Erratic Wanderer of the seas: Silly or cheap?! Well, neither nor, I guess. Rather, still in the clutches Calypso...you've just shown me the way back home to Ithaca...

Adelheid · Post by **Adelheid** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:12 am

matthias wrote:
odysseus wrote: Matthias, you're silly -- or just cheap. SuperDuper! is more flexible than CCC, and works perfectly under Tiger!
Erratic Wanderer of the seas: Silly or cheap?! Well, neither nor, I guess. Rather, still in the clutches Calypso...you've just shown me the way back home to Ithaca...

Hi Matthias,

I take it that you managed to make that bootable backup with SuperDuper? I have been without laptop for a while, hence the late reply. Just restored my ibook with Mimmac from an external harddisk, so I can vouch for the functionality of that program

.

Regards,
Adelheid