fulltext databases in bookends vs pubmed browser search

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drzog
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fulltext databases in bookends vs pubmed browser search

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before i got Bookends I have used pubmed in browser to identify those papers that are published online by the full text services i have a library subscription to. eg science direct/elsevier, blackwell, ovid, wiley-interscience etc. Which i then DL via a library proxy to these individual sites.

This is done by there being:
- in the pubmed abstract there is a fulltext directory gif of the fulltext service
-or in linkout pulldown menu a list of the relevant fulltext links, so i know when i can access it fulltext or not.

In the internet search function in Bookends (which is totally cool dont get me wrong), i dont see this. Is there a way around this? or must i use the goto pubmed action for any relevant papers each time?
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Post by Jon »

Hi,

I guess I don't get what you're asking for. If you have a license, double-clicking on the reference in Internet Search takes you to the full text article (if there is one -- very recent entries sometimes don't have a link to the full article yet, but the vast majority do). Isn't that what you want?

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Post by drzog »

well sorry to sound confusing... i do have a licence, but it is via my university library that uses an eproxy gateway to log into various full text databases, not via pubmed, it is not subscribed to all of them eg. not to ingenta or lippencott or karger or j-stage. SO i dont get how bookends can determine which full text service to access, i have to log in via my library not via the fulltext service.

eg if you goto this page http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... med_docsum

you will see the elsevier logo below the authors, which i know i can access, but this one http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... med_docsum

i cant, even though it is full text, as the library doesnt subscribe

if you goto this page
http://www.rmit.edu.au/browse;ID=okb9dtswzo9v1
and click database then login as guest you will see the database list i am taking about, but its all proxy right. It does goto the fulltext via clicking in bookends internet search, but i cant screen papers for particular fulltext databases like i can using pubmend in the browser as bookends doesnt show the full text service logos in the search engine itself. maybe this is asking too much and it is an unusual situation, then sorry, hope this makes it clearer anyway
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Post by Jon »

I think I see (maybe). Bookends doesn't know if you have access to the full text until you actually try to access it (double-click or Go PubMed). Only then does it go to the PubMed page and try to get the full text article for you. There really isn't anyway around this, because PubMed doesn't keep that info, only the publisher does, and it's only when you try to access the article that you are allowed/denied (the logo is shown regardless of your permission status). Does that answer your question?

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Post by drzog »

yep thats cool, look like i will be sharing searches pubmed then bookends, depending on the need for the article or just the reference. Cheers!
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Post by Jon »

Look for Bookends 9.0.3 when it's out -- there will be some cool new features WRT PubMed that I think you'll like.

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