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raymond · Post by **raymond** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:03 am

Hello,

I am trying to use the Internet Search on Bookends.
I am looking for details of Articles and Papers published mainly on internet or on various international conferences.

When putting the Name of the writer I get an answer that this entry doesn't exist "There are no matches"
Searching in Amazons gave me similar results, and the same in the various universities available there.

Am I right to assume that all these Libraries are for Books and not for articles?

Is there a source to find the details of various articles to look for?

TIA

Post by **Jon** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:57 am

The LOC contains almost entirely books, AFAIK. In the humanities, I think people use JSTOR. Perhaps others can comment.

Jon
Sonny Software

raymond · Post by **raymond** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:17 am

JSTOR doesn't exist in the list you offer in the pop-up menu in
Utilities-->Internet Search--Search (pop-up menu)

Where can I find it and make it joining to the list offered by you?

Post by **Jon** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:08 am

You use your browser.

Jon
Sonny Software

raymond · Post by **raymond** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:15 pm

Thanks this is obvious. I didn't think about it.

nicka · Post by **nicka** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:59 pm

I use Google Scholar for articles. It has more references than JStor and, wonderfully, it will point you to JStor for any article that JStor has.

As I said over at the Mellel forum, you can set a preference in Google Scholar to put a link by every found reference that you can click on to download a file for that citation. You can then import the resulting file into Bookends.

nicka · Post by **nicka** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:28 am

Raymond asked me off-list about this, and it might be useful to others, so I'm posting here:

The preference is set by clicking on 'Scholar preferences' (in tiny type, to the right of the search button on the Google scholar main page), then scrolling down to 'Bibliography manager'. Select the radio button labelled 'Show links to import citations into', then from the dropdown menu to the right, choose a format. Bookends can import many different formats, so most choices here will probably work fine, but one I know works is RefMan.
Save the preferences, then do a search as normal. Each citation found will have a link 'Import into RefMan'. If you click this (for a citation you want) your webbrowser will download a file called 'scholar.ris'.
This file can be dragged from the downloads folder onto Bookends' list window to import. (This stage can be automated in the preferences of some browsers, or by using a folder action, by the way.)

Bookends will pop up a dialogue with a dropdown menu. In this menu choose 'RIS', then click OK. After a brief wait, the citation will have been added to your database.

thecritic · Post by **thecritic** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:53 am

nicka wrote:Bookends can import many different formats, so most choices here will probably work fine, but one I know works is RefMan.

I wonder whether one format might be better than another -- i.e. preserves more information. There's also EndNote format, for example.

Jon, can you comment?

thecritic · Post by **thecritic** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:56 am

Jon wrote:You use your browser.

Is there a way to interact directly with Google Scholar and Google Books? Potentially this could be the PubMed for the humanities.

Post by **Jon** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:01 am

The format is usually irrelevant -- they all can output the same information, just with different tags. It's up to the data source to fill them out in an equivalent fashion, which most seem to do. BibTex is not necessarily exactly equivalent, because some things, like the key value, are unique to it.

Jon
Sonny Software

daiyi · Post by **daiyi** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:57 pm

This is brilliant! Thanks.

danzac · Post by **danzac** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:49 pm

I mention this in public forums as often as I can, and this is the perfect thread to do it.

Take a minute to send the google scholar team a request to make an API service available for Google Scholar. The more requests they receive, the quicker it will happen. This will enable Bookends to access Google Scholar for finding and importing articles.

Send the email to scholar-support--at--google.com. And get all your friends to request it too.

raymond · Post by **raymond** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:56 am

Here is the answer I got from Google scholar:
"Hello,

Thank you for your interest in Google Scholar. We appreciate your
thoughtful suggestion for an API, and I've added it to our list of feature
requests. We're working hard to provide easy access to scholarly
literature, and your feedback will assist us in improving Google Scholar.

Sincerely,

The Google Scholar Team"

I assume this is an almost automatic answer, but it may indicate that more e-mails to them may help.

Raymond