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Re: Small Caps

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:17 am
by Jon
The "improvement" is that for citations and footnotes Bookends now uses \scaps for Word, NWP, and Mellel (Mellel support coming in their 3.3 update).

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:01 pm
by julesmim
Hello,

I apologize for not having noticed the real improvement. I hadn’t checked scanning a temporary citation, but I rather used "Copy formatted", thinking that it would give the same result. But it did not.

Now, I checked for citations, in primary and secondary order, for bibliography, and for "Copy formatted".
And I see that only in-text citations use the rtf code \scaps.

I would suggest the following further improvements:
- having the same \scaps format applied also for bibliography and "Copy formatted";
- having the \scaps format applied to the whole word and not only for letters other than the first letter. Because now, if I use find and replace in Word to replace for example small caps by bold, the result would be: the surnames would be in bold except their first letter. In Word, the ’Small Caps" style does not change the appearance of letters entered as capital; it changes only the appearance of letters entered as not-capitals.

Thanks for all the good work.

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:14 am
by julesmim
Hello,

In a previous post about Small Caps, after having noticed the improvement already done about Small Caps, I also suggested further im improvements:
- having the same \scaps format applied also for bibliography and "Copy formatted";
- having the \scaps format applied to the whole word and not only for letters other than the first letter. Because now, if I use find and replace in Word to replace for example small caps by bold, the result would be: the surnames would be in bold except their first letter. In Word, the ’Small Caps" style does not change the appearance of letters entered as capital; it changes only the appearance of letters entered as not-capitals.
For the first point, it seems that the improvement has now been done for bibliography, but not for "Copy Formatted".

For the second point, since 2013, nothing has changed. Is it because it is impossible or too complicated, or just because my request has been forgotten? I explained my reason for asking it. May I hope it will be done soon? Wouldn’t it be easier to apply the rtf code for Small Caps to the whole word instead of putting apart the first letter?

Thanks for your good work and your support.

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:18 am
by Jon
Yes, because of the intricacies of preserving style information when manipulating text at the letter level it was too difficult to do.

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:48 am
by julesmim
Hello,

I suppose this difficulty is mainly about the first point about "Copy formatted"

I don’t understand why it would be more complicated not making this exception for the first letter. So, may I hope my second point (about applying the code for Small Caps to the whole word and not except the first letter) will be implemented some day (not too far I hope)?

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:12 pm
by julesmim
Hello,

Another question about small caps when I choose "small cap surname" for the authors or editors in the Format Manager, it does not apply it to the name of institutions (followed by a comma). Since "small cap surname" somehow means "put the main part of the full name in small caps", for the institutions in which there is only one part (no first and last name), I would expect that the whole name would be put in small caps. Seems logical. I don’t know how it could be implemented, but I would really like to have this possibility. If not, I would be constrained to create a new reference type for books with an institution as author.

Thanks for all the good work already done.

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:17 pm
by Jon
I think your last point will be implemented in the next update.

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:43 pm
by julesmim
Jon wrote:I think your last point will be implemented in the next update.

Thanks.
Is it my last point about not excluding the first letter of last name under /scaps format (even if the first letter is still visualized as full cap)

or the issue in my last post about applying small caps also to institution names (terminated by comma)?

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: Small Caps

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:07 pm
by Jon
The issue about applying small caps also to institution names (terminated by comma).

Jon
Sonny Software