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PDF preview

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:50 pm
by JMDUM
Hello

I have been really impressed by PDF capabilities of Bookends, as well as drag and drop from Pubmed.
A feature which would be extremely useful is the ability to view PDF (all pages) in the pane below (where we can now see ref+abstract or formatted citations). A must would be to also have the left colum from up to bottom, containing subfolders, juste like in Mail. I have been using a combination of Endnote (to insert references in manuscripts) and DevonThink Pro (to preview PDF when writing manuscripts), and this would be nicely replaced by Bookends.
Since I was vera impressed by PDF capabilities of Bookends, I bought it and I would like to have it replace both Endnote and Devon for these purposes.
I am not a specialist in informatics, but I read that it was possible to integrate PDF preview with "PDF toolkit" from Apple.
This would be amazing.

Thanks for the very good job.

Jean-Marc Dumopnceau

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:11 pm
by Jon
Hi, thanks.

You know that you can see the pdf in the Info Drawer, right (just the first page)?

As for seeing the whole pdf in Bookends, you can if you double-click on it with the Shift key held down (it opens in a Bookends window, and you can scroll from page to page).

Jon
Sonny Software

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:27 am
by JMDUM
Thanks,
Yes I know that I can open it while staying in Bookends, but the magic of Devonthink pro is the 3 panes (limited to the pro version, so these people place some value in it): you don't open anything and just by selecting a line, the whole PDF appears below (exactly the same as in Mail, Entourage for emails or Copernic for PDFs on a PC). This is extremely useful (rapid, does not open many windows).
I have no idea if this feature would be diffficult to implement.

Best regards and thanks for the rapid answer.

Jean-Marc

PS: by the way, which is the sshift key on a Powerbook?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:35 am
by Jon
Bookends give you many ways to view the first page of a pdf, and one to open the pdf in another window. With a double-click you can open it in Preview (which offers far more flexibility than anything Bookends could in dealing with it). Conceivably we could make the Info Drawer image tab or the Attachment Inspector (where pdfs can be displayed now) scrollable (that's what you are asking for), but I really doubt that is much more useful than what we have now.

The Shift key? I'm not sure I understand the question...it's the key you press when you want to enter uppercase characters. It's found on the lower left and right of regular keyboards, and I assume that's true of Powerbooks as well.

Jon
Sonny Software

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:27 pm
by JMDUM
OK, it is not a so big difference if PDF displays automatically rather than by a combination of keys -by the way, on my Powerbook shift key combined with double click only opens "References Bookends", not the PDF. But these are the small things that at the end make you like to work with something.
The 3-panes view has become a standard (Mail, Entourage, Copernic...) for some reason (productivity, ease of use ?). Could be useful to see if this feature is wanted by others (I encourage them to test it in the demo of Devonthink Pro), and it is probably less complicated than another feature discussed here, i.e. reference found from PDF. Maybe later?
Subfolders also are requestered by another user- these made me prefer DevonThink to Journler

Best regards.

Jean-Marc

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:41 pm
by Jon
Hi,

It's not shift-double-click. It's select the attachment you want to open (the contextual menu when you click on the Attach icon in the reference window, or the one when you right-click on the paper clip icon in the List View) with the Shift key held down. The attachment will open in Preview (or Acrobat Reader).

Jon
Sonny Software