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Different name format between Bibliog and Footnote

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:59 pm
by Dantre
Bit embarrassed to ask this, but I've been reading for half the day and still can find the answer:

How do I get my footnotes to read A.B. Author, but my appended bibliography to read Author, A.B.,? :? Sorry..

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:07 pm
by Jon
Good question.

You'd create a "custom citation format" that was called by the "master" (or bibliography) format.

An example of this is APA 5th, which you might look at.

A full description of custom citation formats, and how to create them, is provided in the User Guide (search for "custom citation format").

Jon
Sonny Software

Thanks... but I'm not sure this is the issue..

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:30 pm
by Dantre
Jon, first, thanks so much for taking the time... I don't know how you do it.

I have created several custom formats (for different publishers etc.) with changes for first and second plus citations etc.. My question concerns formatting within the one custom format. As far as I can tell, under format manager, I can choose either Author, A.B., OR A.B. Author such that after running a scan I get my footnotes (= citation, right?) and appended bibliography in which ever one of those options I choose. But I'm wondering how in the same custom format (i.e. for the one publisher) I can have my footnotes (citations) A.B. Author, and my appended bibliography, Author, A.B. I think I've read the Guide fairly carefully but still can't see how to do this. Are you suggesting that I need two custom formats for the one document—one for the citations and another for the attached bibliography? Is that possible? If I've missed something, please don't bother explaining it (that will waste your time), just send me the page numbers in the Guide and I'll check it out.

Sorry to be so thick. Rikk

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:58 am
by Jon
Hi, happy to help.

The "master" format is in control of the bibliography. So you'd set the author output to surname first. In the Bib & Citations tab of the format, you'd set "Citations" to "custom citation format", and from the popup menu select the format you want to control citations (footnotes in your case, but they can be in the body of the text, too).

In the custom citation format you tell Bookends to output authors surname last.

When you do the scan, you'd select the "master" format to scan with. It would call the custom format when it ran into citations. See?

If there are still some problems, please contact me directly and send me your two formats (zipped, please) and I'll see if they are configured properly.

Jon
Sonny Software

Brilliant!

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:24 pm
by Dantre
Very simple. All I needed to do was make a copy of my publishers format, label it "publisher citation," make the changes to that, and use it as my custom citation format in the "master" publishers format. Brilliant.

Thanks so much.. and for a great app.

Rikk