Sonny Software

Hi,

I'm trying to export some references as a bibliography to a LaTeX-document (TeXShop) but all umlauts aren't displayed correctly. That's what it looks like:

J?§hnichen, Traugott/Friedrich, Norbert: ‚ÄûKrisen, Konflikte und Konsequenzen ‚Äì Die ‚Äû68er Bewegung‚Äú und der Protestantismus an der Ruhr-Universit?§t Bochum‚Äú, in: \emph{Westf?§lische Forschungen }1998, S. 127--155.

I guess it's due to the UTF-8 encoding, but I can't find a way to get it exported correctly. What can I do?? Perhaps anyone has a decent workflow for working with bookends in combination with TeXShop?


Thank you!

Annika

Even if I enable the option in the prefs to convert special characters to their TeX equivalents, it doesn't work: the TeX console tells me:

! Text line contains an invalid character.
l.170 ^^@
Aust, Stefan: \emph{Der Baader-Meinhof-Komplex,} Hamburg 1997.


The umlauts are converted correctly to their TeX equivanlent now, but the quotation marks don't. They should be german quotation marks „ and “ (TeX: \glqq and \grqq)

Are you using Bookends 8.0.3 ? To me this sounds like a bug that has been solved a while ago, when non-ASCII chars were wrongly replaced by two Unicode entities…

ozean wrote:Are you using Bookends 8.0.3 ? To me this sounds like a bug that has been solved a while ago, when non-ASCII chars were wrongly replaced by two Unicode entities…

Yes, this is Bookends 8.0.3!
Perhaps this bug was reintroduced with the latest update?

Hi,

I'm not sure what the problem is. Does Bookends *not* convert German quote marks to the correct BibTeX replacement (,, and ''), or is it that you want them converted to something else: \glqq and \grqq ??

Please answer here, and send me a reference exported from Bookends (so I can import it here) and the BibTeX output you *would* like.

Jon
Sonny Software

Hoping not to add more confusion:

If I read his example correctly, quotation marks aren't the only character that is affected.

For example "J?§hnichen" should probably read "Jähnichen"…

At this point there are too many variable here for me to figure out what is going on. In my hands, ä is output correctly, whether or not BibTeX is turned on.

I really need concrete examples, please sent directly to me, so I can see if there is a problem or not.

Jon
Sonny Software

Okay, I try to make clear what my problem is:

I try to export some references from Bookends to include them in a LaTeX document (in which I didn't use BibTeX)

The references have umlauts and other special characters in it like the German typographical quotation marks („ and “)

1) First I tried to export it without the BibTex pref for replacing special characters with the TeX equivalents:

Jähnichen, Traugott/Friedrich, Norbert: „Krisen, Konflikte und Konsequenzen – Die „68er Bewegung“ und der Protestantismus an der Ruhr-Universität Bochum“, in: Westfälische Forschungen 1998, S. 127-155.

was exported to:

J?§hnichen, Traugott/Friedrich, Norbert: ‚ÄûKrisen, Konflikte und Konsequenzen ‚Äì Die ‚Äû68er Bewegung‚Äú und der Protestantismus an der Ruhr-Universit?§t Bochum‚Äú, in: \emph{Westf?§lische Forschungen }1998, S. 127--155.

(This happens when I open the output file in TextEdit and TeXShop. When I open it in XCode and tell it to reinterpret the file in UTF-8, it looks fine. My LaTeX document is in MacOSRoman enconding though, so that I cannot open it in UTF-8.)

2) I then switched on the BibTeX pref to convert the special characters in their TeX equivalents and it converted the umlauts etc. perfectly, but not the quotation marks...

Moreover, when I copy the output to my LaTeX document and run the latex command in TeXShop, I get the error that I mentioned above. I guess this is due to the UTF-8 encoded space characters or line breaks.

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So what can I do? I think this all is due to the fact that Bookends exports all the files to UTF-8 when I chose "BibTeX". This isn't compatible with my MacOSRoman encoded LaTeX files. Is there a possibility to export a bibliography to a MacOSRoman encoded, but BibTex styled file?

I hope I made my problem clear now, but will send you - Jon - this explanation in an email seperately.

I would be very pleased if you could help me. Perhaps there is someone on this board who knows a decent workflow to work with both Bookends and TeXShop without the encoding problems...

Thanks again

Annika (female, btw )

Hi,
what you might want to do is to simply get your LaTeX to understand and output utf8. Assuming that you are already using

\usepackage[german]{babel}

Just add the following immediately afterwards in the preamble:

\usepackage{ucs}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

This lets LaTeX use utf8 encoding.

So, just export from BE to .bib, and use that file (no changes needed anywhere); and it should work straight off.
(I've tried this, it works for me