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format question in Chicago 15th A (suppress pages)

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:11 am
by Gerben
I have a journal reference that is input like this (in Mellel):

{Fraenkel, 1964, #13590\ 215\}

It needs to be output in the final notes like this:

Josef Fraenkel, “The Jewish Press of the Diaspora,” Jewish Social Studies 26/4 (1964): 215.

However I get this (with Chicago 15th A Footnotes format):

Josef Fraenkel, “The Jewish Press of the Diaspora,” Jewish Social Studies 26/4 (1964): 215-26. 215.

I am trying to modify the format (a copy) to suppress the page range. the format looks like this:

a, “t,” f v$, no. $i` `(d`)`~: ~p-`.`

I can of course delete "p-" from the format but that is where the problem starts: I need to preserve the "p-" because there are also articles I cite where I do not manually add a page number in the citation. In those cases the whole range needs to be output in the note.

Would there be a solution to this or do I have to post-process?

Thanks,
Gerben

Re: format question in Chicago 15th A (suppress pages)

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:02 am
by Jon
If you use cited pages (@), Bookends will suppress the internal pages output:

{Fraenkel, 1964, #13590@215}

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: format question in Chicago 15th A (suppress pages)

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:24 am
by Gerben
Hi Jon,

Thanks, that helps a lot. Should have checked the manual more carefully..

I must say Chicago 15 is a rather nasty format since it uses different formatting for different ref types: ", 215" for pages cited from a book or book chapter and ": 215" when citing a page from an article. If I am correct the "@" is replaced by default by a ",". I don't suppose there is any way to influence that?
(It's not too much work to do a post-scan find and replace in Mellel in this case but I wonder if it could be accomodated for in the filter somehow, it seems a pretty widely used format)

Best,
Gerben

Re: format question in Chicago 15th A (suppress pages)

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:44 am
by Jon
Hi,

The @ isn't replaced by a comma. What is output before and after the pages is determined by what you have typed into the format's Cited Pages fields. But you are right there is only one Cited Pages configuration per format. I suggest you use Cited Pages for the most commonly cited Types, and the "quoted text" (\) feature for the rare Type(s).

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: format question in Chicago 15th A (suppress pages)

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:33 pm
by Gerben
Hi Jon,

Thanks again, that is indeed the best workaround.

Gerben