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ambiguous temporary citations and a format question

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:07 am
by Rondonraita
Dear all,

I finished my first paper usind Bookends yesterday. For various reasons I had to switch from Endnote, and while writing this piece (and using some old stuff I've written before, with Endnote), I imported things from Endnote into Bookends.
Question 1: After scanning the paper, I realised that there must have been a major hick-up somewhere in my importing process. Although the temporary citation said something like {Smith 2010 # 231} (and I just might have pasted the text from an older piece of writing), after scan it said (Armiston, 1876). Ok.... so proabably I did something wrong while importing--I think I got two Endnote databases mixed up anyway, so that's maybe the root of the trouble. However: Can I tell Bookends to compare at least 'Author name' and 'Unique ID', so it will at least tell me if they clash? If 'Armiston' now has '231' that is one matter, but in the temp. cit. it said' Smith 231. Is there a way to let Bookends check this, so I can prevent submitting something very weird in the future?

Question 2: I use quie a lot of material without an author name (newspaper articels, for instance). Now, I usually use the newspaper name instead, in these cases. How can I tell Bookends to 'Use name of newspaper' if 'author field is empty'? I did put the newspaper name in the author field, but after formatting it said (Mail, Daily :D ) instead of (Daily Mail) because I used Turabian (which is fine otherwise). Or is there a setting (alternativly) to do 'author as is' instead of 'alway lastname,firstname'?

I hope I could somehow explain my problems, I am not exactly a computer wizard :roll:

Best

Re: ambiguous temporary citations and a format question

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:15 am
by Jon
Rondonraita wrote:I finished my first paper usind Bookends yesterday. For various reasons I had to switch from Endnote, and while writing this piece (and using some old stuff I've written before, with Endnote), I imported things from Endnote into Bookends.
Question 1: After scanning the paper, I realised that there must have been a major hick-up somewhere in my importing process. Although the temporary citation said something like {Smith 2010 # 231} (and I just might have pasted the text from an older piece of writing), after scan it said (Armiston, 1876). Ok.... so proabably I did something wrong while importing--I think I got two Endnote databases mixed up anyway, so that's maybe the root of the trouble. However: Can I tell Bookends to compare at least 'Author name' and 'Unique ID', so it will at least tell me if they clash? If 'Armiston' now has '231' that is one matter, but in the temp. cit. it said' Smith 231. Is there a way to let Bookends check this, so I can prevent submitting something very weird in the future?
As of about a year ago Bookends, ignores any text in a temp citation if there is a unique id -- the unique wins. This is a requested feature, not a bug. The problem in your case it that EndNote uses sequential unique ids starting at "1", which causes a problem if you merge two EN libraries (you can't have two #1's). There are several things you could do now, but which is best or easiest is up to you (e.g. merge the db's in EN and import that into Bookends, recreate the temp citations in the ms., etc.).
Question 2: I use quie a lot of material without an author name (newspaper articels, for instance). Now, I usually use the newspaper name instead, in these cases. How can I tell Bookends to 'Use name of newspaper' if 'author field is empty'? I did put the newspaper name in the author field, but after formatting it said (Mail, Daily :D ) instead of (Daily Mail) because I used Turabian (which is fine otherwise). Or is there a setting (alternativly) to do 'author as is' instead of 'alway lastname,firstname'?
There are two issues here.

First, how to use an institutional name as an author? Terminate it with a comma:

Daily Mail,

Second, how to cite a newspaper? Use the Newspaper Type. A few formats we distribute have a Type for newspapers. If yours does not, it is not difficult to create one. The advantage of a specific Type is that you can, for example, enter month and year of publication separately and cite them as required.

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: ambiguous temporary citations and a format question

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:14 am
by Rondonraita
Dear Jon,

Thanks for your help!