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Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:36 am
by NilsMS
In a major academic writing project spanning several years I frequently encounter temporary citations which I have to look up in Bookends because I do not remember what the citation was about. This involves typing in the author name and comparing the date with that in the temporary citation. It would be nice if I could just klick the temporary citation to jump to the reference in Bookends. I know that I can choose "Copy Hypertext Link" to create such a link but then Bookends does not format this link in the end. Is there an option to have BOTH? A temporary citation which would also work as hypertext link? Or do I miss something obvious?

Any hint is appreciated.

Cheers,

Nils

Re: Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:30 am
by ozean
Switching to Mellel would enable this behavior. No idea if this is scriptable for Jon (i.e. you have to select the entire citation and then fire up an Apple Script?)

Re: Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:40 am
by Jon
As ocean said, Mellel has this capability. But for other word processors, you can't have one thing do be both a temp citation and a link. What you could do in Word or NWP is highlight the temp citation (preferably the unique id) and then use the "Find in Bookends" option. That would switch to word with the text already loaded into the Find dialog. Adjust the Find (for example, to search for unique id) and click OK, and you'll see the reference.

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:38 am
by NilsMS
Jon wrote:As ocean said, Mellel has this capability. But for other word processors, you can't have one thing do be both a temp citation and a link. What you could do in Word or NWP is highlight the temp citation (preferably the unique id) and then use the "Find in Bookends" option. That would switch to word with the text already loaded into the Find dialog. Adjust the Find (for example, to search for unique id) and click OK, and you'll see the reference.
Many thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I use Scrivener for text processing, and there does not seem to exist such an option. Is there any chance to include this behaviour (temporary citations as link) into Bookends?

Cheers,

Nils

Re: Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:48 am
by Jon
As I said, I don't think that's possible. Links are not plain text, they have embedded characteristics (which makes them links). You can do the same thing in Scrivener that I suggested for Word with a few extra steps -- copy the unique id, switch to Bookends, Command-F, Command-V, set the option to look for unique id, then press Return. That will find the reference.

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:54 am
by nicka
What about suggesting, on the Scrivener forum, a feature 'Switch to Bibliography manager and Find'? It would be very useful, for sure.

Re: Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:03 am
by Jon
I can tell you that it's a simple AppleEvent, so if Keith (Scrivener) wanted to do so it would be easy to implement.

Jon
Sonny Software

Re: Temporary citation as formatted link

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:15 pm
by NilsMS
Jon wrote:I can tell you that it's a simple AppleEvent, so if Keith (Scrivener) wanted to do so it would be easy to implement.
Thanks for the suggestion! I will then try this on the Scrivener-Forum.

Cheers,

Nils