Sonny Software

Hi everybody,

I was looking for a way to get the author's name outside the parentheses and learned that you can use the caret ^ in the temporary citation to do so. Now that really is a great feature (I wish I had investigated it earlier), but while I was trying it I had problems with using it for edited books. Is it possible that the caret can not be used for edited books (when there is no author)? From {^Giacalone Ramat and Hopper, 1998, #59414} I got results like "1 (998)" instead of "Giacalone Ramat/Hopper (1998). The handbook says "If there is no author, the editor's name(s) will be used", so is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

Also, I was testing the metatypes option – I did everything like the handbook says, and the output in Bookends itself was pretty fine. However, when I scanned my document (in Mellel) two things happened (and continue to happen even after quitting both programs, and happen also in other writing programs):
1. From the 8 or so articles of the same book, only 5 or so come with the abbreviated citation in the bibliography, while the others appear in their full form. (Yes, they are all linked properly.) Is there any solution for that?
2. After every (correctly) metatype-cited article there is no line break before the following citation. So, instead of
Abduladze, Lia/Andreas Ludden (2013): „The vocative in Georgian“, in: Barbara Sonnenhauser/Patrizia Noel Aziz Hanna (Hrsg.), 25-42.
Crusca, Accademia della (Hrsg.) (1987): Gli italiani parlati, Florenz: Accademia della Crusca
I get:
Abduladze, Lia/Andreas Ludden (2013): „The vocative in Georgian“, in: Barbara Sonnenhauser/Patrizia Noel Aziz Hanna (Hrsg.), 25-42.Crusca, Accademia della (Hrsg.) (1987): Gli italiani parlati, Florenz: Accademia della Crusca
Of course, I could just insert the missing paragraphs at the end, but I actually would rather not search 10-15 pages of bibliography for that... Any solution?
Thanks in advance!

HI,

This forum isn't for tech support.

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Please break down your issues into separate reports and contact tech support with them.

Jon
Sonny Software

Streghetta wrote: I was looking for a way to get the author's name outside the parentheses and learned that you can use the caret ^ in the temporary citation to do so. Now that really is a great feature (I wish I had investigated it earlier), but while I was trying it I had problems with using it for edited books. Is it possible that the caret can not be used for edited books (when there is no author)? From {^Giacalone Ramat and Hopper, 1998, #59414} I got results like "1 (998)" instead of "Giacalone Ramat/Hopper (1998). The handbook says "If there is no author, the editor's name(s) will be used", so is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

I've found and fixed the problem with the odd output when there is no author (you'll get (1998), not 1 (998)". As for automatic substitution of editor for author, that works for Author-Date citations. For custom citations, which is what you're using, you should edit the format's Edited Book Type. Instead of output

e d

(or whatever, rather than a d).

Then you won't have any problem.

The fix will appear in the next update.

Jon
Sonny Software

Actually, e d is what I have for edited books. Anyway, there are not so many of them I would like to cite with the caret, I think I can live with the manual workaround – and if the fix is coming anyway, that's great.
For the other problem I'll contact the support.
Thank you!

Are there editors in the Editors field? Giacalone, Rama, and Hopper? That's what Bookends looks for when you output e in the format. As I said, in the next update you'll get the correct date, e.g. (1998), but to get the names they must be in the editors field.

Jon
Sonny Software

Yes, the editors are in the Editors field...

It works here. We'll discuss off forum.

Jon
Sonny Software