Sonny Software

I am currently investigating using Bookends/Mellel as a replacement for Endnote/Word. Currently I have questions about the following issues (sorry, this is a bit long...)

1. I have some text in a title field which is mostly the default font (Times), but a couple of words are in Galatia SIL (Greek words). But when I copy and paste the text directly from Bookends into say Mellel, it tells me the font for those characters is Helvetica. That's the shortest version of the problem, which I first noticed when the font was turning out as Helvetica in the Bibliography in a Mellel document when I scanned the document. (In case it matters one extra piece of info is that when I create a Bibliography in Bookends using 'Bibliography formatter...' it ends up with the correct font, Galatia SIL).

2. Am I right in thinking that there is no way to get a footnote to preserve the font formatting of the title? (that's what the Bookends User Guide, p. 128 second para. seems to be saying).

3. Now for the fun format question.

Is it possible have footnotes which can do the following:
Smith, "Article or Book Chapter" (various stuff for first reference), 123.
Smith, "Article or Book Chapter," 456.
Smith, "Article or Book Chapter."

(i.e. the problem is that the second reference has pages, so there's a comma before the end quotes, the third reference does not have pages, so there's a fullstop).

I can't get it to happen anyway. At the moment I am using two formats interconnected by the 'custom citation format' field. On the first format (bibliog version) that points to the other one (footnote version) the cited pages has ', ' in it (without the quotes).
Then in the footnote version the secondary reference is set to
a, "s"
Then I reference it in Mellel by a citation object with "Smith'04@123" (minus the quotes of course).
That's as close as I can it to correct, but of course, it ends up putting the comma after the quote.
Any way of getting this sort of formatting to work?

Regards,
Mark.

Hi, I'll take these in order:

1. When you copy/paste, do the Greek letters still appear in Greek? Or are they garbage? If the still appear as Greek, this may be font substitution begin done by Mellel (unless you see the same with, say, TextEdit). You can send me the font and your small, stuffed, db if you want me to look at this.

2. Yes, you are right.

3. Hm, Bookends is reasonably smart about putting commas inside quotes (as of 8.0.4), but it can be tricky. You can send me your formats and a simple example and I'll take a look.

Jon
Sonny Software

Perhaps you have already discussed this in the email with Mark, but the issue isn't that the comma is not coming out properly, but it is getting Bookends to realize that if we have not attached a page citation (@22.) then a period should replace the comma. This is part of SBL formatting, and is an issue for me as well. Currently, I have to manually fix all of these after a scan. Danny

Mark and I have been in contact, and we've discussed having the comma placed inside the final quote mark instead of on the outside. This has been implemented in 8.1.1. If you have another issue, contact me directly with examples.

Jon
Sonny Software