Sonny Software

Hello all,

I'd appreciate any suggestions about my proposed workaround for the "repeated citations" function.

Given that my particular Style Guidelines require that only a page number is used immediately after the reference listed immediately above - and considering that I cannot have BE output nothing but the page number - could the following work well enough?:

I use a unique character, i.e. ¥ or something, in the Repeat Citations field.

After the fact/once the scan is completed in Word, I then find all the ¥'s, and 'simply' delete them - leaving only the page number behind??

Can anyone think of why this approach might not be feasible?

Many thanks!

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I think you're doing it the hard way.

If all you want is the cited page, just enter it as plain text. No need to make it a citation (the reference will already be in the bibliography, if you generate one).

So, perhaps something like this

...the first cite {temp cite@12}...

...the second cite (p. 16)...

Jon
Sonny Software

Jon wrote:Uri Geller had some moments of fame years ago when he claimed he could bend spoons with his mind (and demonstrated this on TV shows). When asked to comment, The Amazing Randi (a magician famous for debunking charlatans) said that "If he is, he's doing it the hard way."

I think you're doing it the hard way.

If all you want is the cited page, just enter it as plain text. No need to make it a citation (the reference will already be in the bibliography, if you generate one).

So, perhaps something like this

...the first cite {temp cite@12}...

...the second cite (p. 16)...

Jon
Sonny Software

Thanks for that intro, Jon, enjoyed that!

Yes - I thought about going the easy route - but for the possibility of things being moved about still... The benefit of using the {temp cite} would presumably be that were further, unrelated reference citations to be added later, in the course of writing up, the {temp cite} would still serve as a marker of sorts, to confirm which reference it was referring to.

As potentially tedious as the manual find/replace might be at the end, it can be automated to an extent - using Keyboard Maestro etc. to reduce some of the clicking involved - so shouldn't be too bad.

I guess what I'm checking is that once the scan has been completed - all the {temp cite} instances are simply converted to "plain text", which can be altered in any which way might be necessary.

I'll be forced to edit regardless, since my Style Guidelines requires the "only page" number ONLY if the Repeat Citation is the ONLY reference in the (immediately) subsequent footnote. BE cannot help there, but I can at least 'Identify' those Repeat Citations using the ¥ symbol, as proposed.

#WorkInProgress.

But the flaw is that Bookends will output just the page number for a subsequent citation whether it's consecutive or not. So if you cite the same paper in the first and last citation of the paper (separated by 100's), Bookends will output only the page number the second time. Now imagine the mess there would be if this happens dozens of times.

Also, the final citation is typically not plain text. It's a "field" (if using Word/NWP) or a citation object (if using Mellel). You can edit it in any case, but it's not plain text per se.

You can harness the Ibid. feature of Bookends to mark consecutive citations. Then get rid of the Ibid's after the scan.

Jon
Sonny Software