Sonny Software

I'm currently attempting to use BE 12.7.3 with Scrivener 2.8.

In the past attempting this combination created problems with footnotes, the easiest workaround being to paste a formatted citation within the Scriv text and then use a Nisus macro to sort things out in the final document. Messy, but in practice I found it worked.

This meant the formatted text needed special characters as delimiters in order to makefor the macro work with a modified format in BE to make this automatic. The use of {fn text} was prohibited as { } is used by BE, but as I recall a carat ^fn text^ would serve the purpose. Having tried this it appears to no longer work as BE does not recognise the carat at the start and end of the formatted footnote. EG ^Stephen V Ward, Planning and Urban Change (London: Paul Chapman, 1994). P3^ If I use cmnd-K (copy formatted) the carats are ignored, neither do they appear in the 'formatted' window.

Are there any characters I can use as delimiters or is this an impossibility?

You mean using the carat as a citation delimiter for a temporary citation? That was never possible. Your options are in preferences:

{}
[]
~~
||

As for what Bookends recognizes at the end of a formatted footnote -- the answer is nothing. Bookends doesn't know anything about formatted footnotes/citations. It only recognizes temporary citations (in the text or a footnote) when it scans.

I guess I don't understand what you want Bookends to do.

Jon
Sonny Software

Hi Jon:

I'm not looking for Bookends to do anything special, I'm just looking to create a format that encloses the formatted citation within braces (or carats) thus: {citation text} or ^citation text^

Working with Nisus or Word I use the traditional temporary BE marker and then scan the document with BE. However, when working with Scrivener this often results in a lot of post formatting so I find it easier if I can do cmnd K to copy formatted footnotes and paste them in the appropriate place in the Scrivener body text. In the final document I can then create properly placed footnotes with a Nisus macro, the braces (carats) acting as delimiters so the macro can identify the relevant text.

I appreciate this is an idiosyncratic way of working, but it's something I'm only likely to do when using Scrivener since traditional methods produce too much post production faffing around. In my experience it's easier to do it this way, messy though it is. Other users experiences may vary.......

What of course I did forget as it's so long since I modified any formats, is that using ${$ compels BE to use that character in the format.......

All in all, I'm now sorted. Apologies for the wasted bandwidth

I see, makes sense. Note that by default the ^ has special meanings, but in references and in formats. It's the superscript metacharacter, for example. You can change that also, in preferences, and then you should probably be able to have ^ output in a format (I haven't tested, but I think that would be the case).

Jon
Sonny Software