Sonny Software

Hi all,

I've used Bookends for a little while, for simple projects - always just with TextEdit and Harvard format. So I'm a bit of a newbie. I'm also using Mellel for the first time (for the footnote handling), so I'm feeling a little at sea!

This semester I'm doing a History unit and need to cite in "Oxford Style", detailed here.

http://www.usq.edu.au/library/help/ehel ... oxford.htm

http://www.deakin.edu.au/studentlife/ac ... ocnote.php

Is Oxford format the same as another format already in Bookends, or a slight tweak thereof? Or is there an Oxford format I can download somewhere?

Many thanks

Lara

Perhaps someone has created this and will let us know. If not, I can do this when I have a bit of time.

Jon
Sonny Software

Thanks!

Lara

Hi, just following up on this thread to say that I still haven't found this format, so if anyone's stumbled across it I'd really appreciate it. Will have to do this week's paper by hand, I think :/ Luckily, it's a short one!

Thanks

Lara

It's in the 9.0.4 beta package.

If you don't want to download the whole thing, or can't wait for 9.0.4 final, please email me and I'll send just the Oxford format to you.

Jon
Sonny Software

I guess it's a little late for your paper, but from my "Oxford Guide to Style" the format looks very similar to MHRA, so you could probably use that with some small modifications.

Tacitus

Thanks Tacitus - unfortunately the "Oxford" style we're being told to use is nothing like the "Oxford" style in the next v of Bookends, that Jon kindly sent me. Same names, different formats! I have modified the Turabian format a little to suit, but I'll have a look at MHRA.

Lara

Hi Lara,

I created an Oxford author-date format. You may have wanted the humanities format (I didn't know which). If MHRA works much better, please let me know and I'll modify that to be exactly what is needed and include it in the next update.

Jon
Sonny Software

Mm, it is a history class so perhaps what you refer to as the "humanities" format is it? All I know about the the format is that the URLs we're referred to to follow (which I put in my original message) call it the "documentary-note (Oxford) system", and that they are based on "the Style manual for authors, editors and printers, 6th edn, 2002."

Many thanks

Lara

waawa wrote:Mm, it is a history class so perhaps what you refer to as the "humanities" format is it? All I know about the the format is that the URLs we're referred to to follow (which I put in my original message) call it the "documentary-note (Oxford) system", and that they are based on "the Style manual for authors, editors and printers, 6th edn, 2002."

Lara

My copy of the Oxford guide to Style by R M Ritter was first published by OUP in 2002 so it's not the 6th edn. The alternative, the MHRA Style Guide also published in 2002. For those outside the UK, MHRA = Modern Humanities Research Association. Available at all good bookstores for around 5UK or you can download a .pdf from http://www.mhra.org.uk

Just checked your original post. The examples quoted look rather like one of the Chicago formats. What I suggest you do is take an example of (say) a book, a journal, book chapter and try formatting them for Chicago, Turabian footnote and perhaps MHRA.

See which is nearest to what you need. As a History undergrad, I was told that *exact* style doesn't matter (within reason) - consistency is more important. However, each University will have its own rules.

Hope this helps

Tacitus[/quote]

Hi Lara, I too have been asked to use the Oxford Documentary-note system of citations. A comprehensive description with examples is provided at: http://www.deakin.edu.au/studentlife/ac ... ocnote.php

I'm going to have a go at creating a new format in Bookends - as per the Users Guide. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Graeme

Thanks Graeme! I'd love to hear if you manage to get a style together.

Thanks for your note Tacitus - in my university most of the lecturers I've had have been pretty strict with referencing style, often right down to punctuation details, often from the first year of undergraduate studies and certainly in second and third year.

Side note: I'm wondering if there's a technical issue with the forum display? When I view the thread, I can see my original post with the two URLs I posted to the style details (USQ and Deakin) - but a couple of people have responded in a way that makes me think those URLs aren't visible to them?

Thanks

Lara

Hey Lara, no, the URL'S are visible to me ... I was just tired and didn't read them carefully. I'll have a look at the other one and see if it affects what I'm doing with the format.

Graeme

Lara, if your still watching this thread:

The Deakin U. site is the best I've found. However it doesn't cover 3 or more authors, or "translated by". These should be dealt with as follows:

1. 3 or more authors - Bibliography: Author, AB, CD Author & EF Author ...
Footnotes/Endnotes: AB Author, CD Author & EF Author ... (note change in first author)
2. Translated by: Use "... trans. AB Author, CD Author, ..."

Hope that makes sense - I pasted it from an email I sent Jon.

Graeme

Hi all,

I've created an Oxford Notes format, based on the Deakin site, which will be included in the next update. If anyone would like it before then, please email me directly and I'll send it to you.

Jon
Sonny Software