Sonny Software

Hi,

I found out that a number of journals start to move from the page number format that we all used to to the so called document number "DOI". Journals like "Mathematical Geology" from Springer, all journals from American Geophysical Union (Journal of Geophysical Researches ...).

I'm wondering if anybody has an idea on how to properly enter it to database and output it properly?

thanks

Hi,

Perhaps you might dedicate one of the user-defined fields to the DOI (for journal articles). Then in the journal format simply insert its code (e.g. u1) where the DOI is to appear.

Jon
Sonny Software

Jon, I think the DOI stuff will be standard pretty soon (or is already) – I would like to encourage you to make this part of the standard distribution and use DOI as the default value for user1 – as you suggested to macnugget in this thread. What do you think about that?

(The more I use advanced features and get to know bibliographic standards, the happier I am that you added new fields!)

Hi ozean,

I leave User1 alone because some people use it for the BibteX key field. So that can be used by people who don't use BibteX for whatever they want (like DOI). Or they could use any other user-defined field. I'll be thinking of more uniform ways to handle DOI in the future.

Jon
Sonny Software

Jon wrote:I'll be thinking of more uniform ways to handle DOI in the future.

Great!

I note a couple of suggestions as to how doi numbers should be added and I note that a number of the import filters put these into the url field. Is this now the standard way of referring to doi numbers? I can see a problem in that there might well be other url information that should be included.

Elsewhere I noted that unused 4 was the suggested place to add this information.

Is a doi field likely sometime?

Cheers,

Craig

craig.marshall wrote:Is a doi field likely sometime?

It's one of the things that I'm planning on adding with then next "whole integer" update to Bookends.

Jon
Sonny Software

I've been thinking about DOI's as well. I'd like to see this well integrated into bookends.

Allow me to make a few suggestions:

- Add a field directly under the city field for the DOI field, which would make the URL field half the size (does anyone really need to see a URL stretched across the whole window?)

- alternatively, the URL field can do double-duty. In my opinion, if you have the DOI, you don't need the URL. URL's may change, DOI's won't. Perhaps Bookends would be able to 'recognize' if the text in the URL field was a DOI (it wouldn't start with www. or http). If it is a DOI, it launches a DOI lookup search (see below). If it is a URL, then it launches the URL like it does now.

- I would also suggest a DOI lookup tool, using the CrossRef lookup (http://www.crossref.org/guestquery/). Basically, you plug in the info, and CrossRef retrieves the DOI (if there is one).

- This is building on theoreticals, but I am hoping that google scholar will get an api system soon (everyone reading this should email them and request it, btw). This would allow us to send a DOI to GS, and have returned the citation data (because google scholar offers the citation data in endnote format). Of course, if GS gets an API, then Jon would probably make it even more functional that that.

danzac wrote:- I would also suggest a DOI lookup tool, using the CrossRef lookup (http://www.crossref.org/guestquery/). Basically, you plug in the info, and CrossRef retrieves the DOI (if there is one).

Why using a third party website, just put your DOI behind

http://dx.doi.org/

and let them resolve it.

I meant a situation when you have all the citation information except for the DOI. Cross-ref's DOI lookup is for this type of situation. And it is machine-to-machine as far as I know, so Jon could create a plugin or whatever to work with it.

But for launching DOI's, you're suggestion is bang on.

danzac wrote:I meant a situation when you have all the citation information except for the DOI.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Your hint has been very useful! The crossref service at:

http://www.crossref.org/freeTextQuery/

allowed to paste a list of 46 formatted references from Bookends and found a few DOIs that I had missed before. I have added this URL to the Bookends File/Open URL... menu (the dialog in Bookends does not allow to paste, BUG?).

One problem is that the DOI search failed for two references in which I had modified author names to the correct German spelling (Umlaute). Possibly consequences of ASCII usage in PubMed.

You can also add this
http://www.crossref.org/openurl?

To the OpenURL search in the preferences. Launching this will look up the article based on the data and take you to its spot on the net. But it only works with articles that do have DOI's.

I'm trying to figure out if there is service of Crossref for just returning the metadata info to Bookends- i.e. I have all the data EXCEPT FOR the DOI and want the info to be returned to Bookends - rather than still having to copy and paste from my browser.

The inability to paste is also present in the openurl preference tab. Weird.