if I have not missed something this options only exists in combination with the format setting "custom citation format" but not with "author & date". I don't understand why maybe because I'm missing the sense of the "custom citation format" but I would like it very much if I could use "for repeated citations use" with the "author & date"-setting.
would be nice if somebody could enlighten me a bit. thanks.
for repeated citations use
I think I don't understand everything: I just want to insert citations as they can be defined with the "author & date"-setting (e. g. Schmidt 2001, p. 128). For repeated citations I want to use e. g. "ibid. pp. 34-50". This could be very easily handled if you would add an "for repeated citations use"-setting to the "author & date"-setting. My bibliography then is produced with my choosen format settings.
If I would use my custom citation format for that, either the first citation would contain the whole reference-entry In need for the bibliography or my bibliography would contain only useless short citations just like "Schmidt 2001". both would not make sense at all.
I'm a bit wondering what basic features are not part of bookends. Or are these special needs of German social sciences?
If I would use my custom citation format for that, either the first citation would contain the whole reference-entry In need for the bibliography or my bibliography would contain only useless short citations just like "Schmidt 2001". both would not make sense at all.
I'm a bit wondering what basic features are not part of bookends. Or are these special needs of German social sciences?
I don't think you understand how custom citation formats are used. You don't have the format use *itself* to create the citations, you have it use *another* format to create the custom citations.
Take a look at Chicago 15th A to see how this is done (it uses the Chicago Footnote format for creating custom citations).
Jon
Sonny Software
Take a look at Chicago 15th A to see how this is done (it uses the Chicago Footnote format for creating custom citations).
Jon
Sonny Software
now I have two more problems with the same feature:
1. I set to use "ebd." for repeated citations and I have set "cited pages" to "page range" and before to ", ". If I scan my Mellel (latest version 2.0.4) document the period after "ebd" is lost. It is just "ebd, pagenumber" instead of "ebd., pagenumber".
(ebd. is the german version for ibid.)
a further feature request in this context for the "cited pages" setting: I would like to use the before setting differently in case I use the "for repeated citations use"-option like described in the following. for first use I would like to use "Schmidt 2001, 34" if repeated I would like to use "ebd. 35." and if the pagenumber also is the same I would like to use only "ebd."
2. my second problem: if a citation is used first in a footnote and then within the text the following citation, there is used "ebd." which is not very fine I think. The same problem is existing with endnotes. So this could lead to the following scenario: I insert an endnote with contains a citation on page 56 and on the same page an inline citation which is printed with "ebd." but the reading person maybe never will realize that ebd. is not related to the last inline citation (from another book) but to the endnote 37 which is printed on page 276.
Therefor I think it is nearly a must-have that Bookends is able to recognize the main text and different note streams within Mellel.
best regards, reiner
1. I set to use "ebd." for repeated citations and I have set "cited pages" to "page range" and before to ", ". If I scan my Mellel (latest version 2.0.4) document the period after "ebd" is lost. It is just "ebd, pagenumber" instead of "ebd., pagenumber".
(ebd. is the german version for ibid.)
a further feature request in this context for the "cited pages" setting: I would like to use the before setting differently in case I use the "for repeated citations use"-option like described in the following. for first use I would like to use "Schmidt 2001, 34" if repeated I would like to use "ebd. 35." and if the pagenumber also is the same I would like to use only "ebd."
2. my second problem: if a citation is used first in a footnote and then within the text the following citation, there is used "ebd." which is not very fine I think. The same problem is existing with endnotes. So this could lead to the following scenario: I insert an endnote with contains a citation on page 56 and on the same page an inline citation which is printed with "ebd." but the reading person maybe never will realize that ebd. is not related to the last inline citation (from another book) but to the endnote 37 which is printed on page 276.
Therefor I think it is nearly a must-have that Bookends is able to recognize the main text and different note streams within Mellel.
best regards, reiner
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Jon
Sonny Software
Jon
Sonny Software