Make page numbers in citations invisible

Peter Scheuch · Post by **Peter Scheuch** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:20 pm

Hi,

I want to keep page numbers in the citations for later reference, but would like make them invisible in the current document (except for literal citations). Is there a possibility to make them invisible by inserting a special symbol (like the %-sign for the author)?

Thanks,
Peter

Post by **Jon** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:33 pm

Hi,

You can control the citatation of page numbers by handling them yourself, using cited pages:

{Smith, 2006, title@78}

This will result in something like

(Smith, 2006, pg. 78)

or whatever you want in the final citation ,depending on how you have defined the format.

Jon
Sonny Software

Peter Scheuch · Post by **Peter Scheuch** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:43 am

Hi Jon,

Thanks for the quick response. However, it seems I could not explain exactly what I would like to do.

I am currently writing on a draft document and have included all page numbers in all citation using the @sign. This works perfectly. However, in the final document, I only need page numbers for literal citations. For all the other citations, I have to delete the page number manually. However, as I would need them later, I do not want to loose them permanently.

I wanted to ask, if there is a way to make them invisible in the final document without loosing them permanently?

Thanks,
Peter

Post by **Jon** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:10 am

Hi,

Hm, I think I see what you want, but I don't understand why you want it. So perhaps I can ask what you mean by needing them "later on"? That is, if you don't need the page number in the citation, why would you need it later on? If you mean that you will be citing the same reference later, and later you ned the page number, then don't use cited pages the first time, but use it the second time. I'm sorry if I'm being slow.

FWIW, you can always create a citation that "self deletes" (doesn't show up in the final scanned doc but will crate an entry in the bibliography) by preceding it with the ! symbol:

{!author, date, title@78}

But I don't think that's what you're asking for here.

Jon
Sonny Software

Peter Scheuch · Post by **Peter Scheuch** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:45 am

Jon,

I am only writing a summary of a very long document now and would like to write a longer version later. In order to be able to expand the summary again, I would like to see the source including the pages again.

Is it therefore possible to hide only the page number and not the whole citation? The ! unfortunately hides the whole citation.

Thanks,
Peter

Post by **Jon** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:53 am

Ah, I see.

No, I'm afraid Bookends takes the cited pages literally -- it outputs them as you entered them. There is no way to suppress cited pages you entered (except not to ask for them, of course). If the summary isn't too large, perhaps maintaining two copies might be the best way to proceed?

Jon
Sonny Software

nicka · Post by **nicka** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:42 am

If you are using a word processor with support for comments -- Word, for example -- you could put the page numbers in comments attached to the citations.

If you are using Mellel, which doesn't yet have comments, you could create a special note stream for the page numbers.