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Enkidu
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bibliographies and citations

Post by Enkidu »

Thanks for your reply to my previous question, swift and helpful as always. One more thing to bug you with:
If I am scanning a word document, Bookends is now nicely replacing all my temporary citations with page references and all. However the bibliography it creates at the end of the document is in exactly the same style as the final citations: last name, date. As far as I can tell from the user manual, this is intentional, which seems very strange to me. Is there some way of separating the styles, so that the bibliography is generated in one format while citations are generated in another? Obviously I can manually create another bibliography within Bookends, and cut and paste, but this seeems to be something that would be a feature.
One last point - you were right about my last problem, I missed the instructions about the backslash. However I must say they're not exactly easy to find - they aren't in the "copy citation" section of the manual, which would seem to be their natural home. At least a reference to the right section would be useful.
However, despite that tiny issue, still a wonderful program and manual.

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Enkidu wrote:Thanks for your reply to my previous question, swift and helpful as always. One more thing to bug you with:
If I am scanning a word document, Bookends is now nicely replacing all my temporary citations with page references and all. However the bibliography it creates at the end of the document is in exactly the same style as the final citations: last name, date. As far as I can tell from the user manual, this is intentional, which seems very strange to me. Is there some way of separating the styles, so that the bibliography is generated in one format while citations are generated in another? Obviously I can manually create another bibliography within Bookends, and cut and paste, but this seeems to be something that would be a feature.
Yes, that's what custom citation formats are for (see second tab of the format definition window). The citations can be formatted in any way you like, just like a bibliography. The only limitations are (1) custom citations can't have styled text, and (2) Bookends won't add the a, b after a year.

Issue (1) will be dealt with in Bookends 8, which will let the citations be styled.

One last point - you were right about my last problem, I missed the instructions about the backslash. However I must say they're not exactly easy to find - they aren't in the "copy citation" section of the manual, which would seem to be their natural home. At least a reference to the right section would be useful.

Hm, they are in the Scan a Document section, right after "Creating removable in-text citations", which seems logical. I'll add a reference to this in the Copy Citation section, in the next User Guide.
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Re: bibliographies and citations

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Jon wrote:Yes, that's what custom citation formats are for (see second tab of the format definition window). The citations can be formatted in any way you like, just like a bibliography. The only limitations are (1) custom citations can't have styled text, and (2) Bookends won't add the a, b after a year.
Will issue 2 be dealt with in the near future? It would seem fairly necessary to have lower case letters after a year to distinguish between similar references, whether citations are customized or not.
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Post by Jon »

Hi everett,

Since custom citations are typically used for footnotes, you rarely need a letter after the year to distinguish citations. That's something usually necessary in bibliographies, and Bookends will add the letters to the year when appropriate in that case. If you have a particular need for this in-text citations, please contact me directly and we can discuss it.

Jon
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