JSTOR
The access to JSTOR is validated via your university. Bookends can't control that, so you'll have to ask your IT people about getting support for use of ip address.
As for failure to import even though the search is successful -- click on a reference in the online search window and look at the bottom pane to see what is displayed. You should see a list of tagged fields (field names boldfaced). Look at the Bookends import filter. Do the tags match what you see in the display pane? If you still can't figure it out, you can email me and tell me what search to perform to see if I can reproduce it.
Jon
Sonny Software
As for failure to import even though the search is successful -- click on a reference in the online search window and look at the bottom pane to see what is displayed. You should see a list of tagged fields (field names boldfaced). Look at the Bookends import filter. Do the tags match what you see in the display pane? If you still can't figure it out, you can email me and tell me what search to perform to see if I can reproduce it.
Jon
Sonny Software
Hi Gijs. After saving citations and hitting 'saced citations' I choose the last export option: "view and save citations citation manager" (which is the default in the menu). Then I hit the view button and copy the contents of the window that pops up. Import via clipborad works.gke wrote:Gerben, which citation format did you use for importing from the clipboard? I tried all options available, but none of them worked, even had the citation posted to my e-mail and then copied to the clipboard from there, but all to no avail, although I indeed remembered this was the way it worked before.
Gerben
There is a difference between the tags in the online search window's bottom pane and the tags in the filter.Jon wrote:As for failure to import even though the search is successful -- click on a reference in the online search window and look at the bottom pane to see what is displayed. You should see a list of tagged fields (field names boldfaced). Look at the Bookends import filter. Do the tags match what you see in the display pane?
It seems that the tags in the import filter correspond with those that JStor provides when using one of the export options from a browser search. The tags that come up when accessing JStor via online search in BE are different however.
Gerben
Just in case anyone is following this, or gets here by a search in the future: Copying the filter Jon sent me into the 'Import Filters' folder in the 'Bookends 10' folder worked perfectly. I can now copy found references into databases.I'm happy to send the final version to anyone affected.
However I have hit the other problem. I was at my university earlier and the JStor search worked. Now I am at home it doesn't. It's a bit surprising because I have off-site access to JStor via an Athens log-in, and I have logged in, using Safari.
Assuming I have correctly diagnosed the problem (which I may not have) is there any way that Bookends could be modified to play nicely with Athens logins in the future?
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JSTOR URL construction
I have a question about how Bookends constructs the URLs that it uses for JSTOR approved access.
My University doesn't use a VPN for off-campus proxy. Instead, it uses a login through a web proxy that reforms URLS. So when accessing JSTOR directly,
http://jstor.org --> http://www.jstor.org.proxy.library.ucsb.edu:2048/
This gives me full access.
In Bookends File > Import Manager > JSTOR > Internet, I see
www.jstor.org/search/SRU
Now, to access that URL by proxy, my proxy bookmarklet converts it to:
www.jstor.org.proxy.library.ucsb.edu:2048/search/SRU
If I'm not logged in to the proxy, I get a web log-in - once I'm logged in, I'm forwarded to the page.
I've tried both inserting this string into the Bookends JSTOR filter as a complete URL string and stripping out the port portion (2048) and putting it in the port field. I've also tried logging in via Safari to see if the problem is a login problem affecting Bookends - no dice. All I get from the Bookends > Internet Search > JSTOR dialog is "There are no matches." I have confirmed however that they full jstor.org.proxy etc. string does load a page that reads "And Now, Some Services" in Safari when I am logged in. That looks promising. I would manually test the string further, but I'm not sure how to formulate SRU strings. Any hints appreciated.
My University doesn't use a VPN for off-campus proxy. Instead, it uses a login through a web proxy that reforms URLS. So when accessing JSTOR directly,
http://jstor.org --> http://www.jstor.org.proxy.library.ucsb.edu:2048/
This gives me full access.
In Bookends File > Import Manager > JSTOR > Internet, I see
www.jstor.org/search/SRU
Now, to access that URL by proxy, my proxy bookmarklet converts it to:
www.jstor.org.proxy.library.ucsb.edu:2048/search/SRU
If I'm not logged in to the proxy, I get a web log-in - once I'm logged in, I'm forwarded to the page.
I've tried both inserting this string into the Bookends JSTOR filter as a complete URL string and stripping out the port portion (2048) and putting it in the port field. I've also tried logging in via Safari to see if the problem is a login problem affecting Bookends - no dice. All I get from the Bookends > Internet Search > JSTOR dialog is "There are no matches." I have confirmed however that they full jstor.org.proxy etc. string does load a page that reads "And Now, Some Services" in Safari when I am logged in. That looks promising. I would manually test the string further, but I'm not sure how to formulate SRU strings. Any hints appreciated.
I have just tested the new JStor filter at home, via a VPN connection to my institute, and at work via direct access. The latter works fine (searching as well as importing) but at home via VPN it does not work. So VPN is not 'enough' clearly.
Since JStor seems to use different tags for browser export and direct search I decided to keep the old JStor filter next to the new one (renaming them Jstor Browser and JStor Online); I use the new filter at work and the old one at home. Perhaps it is an option to incorporate both in an update to account for all circumstances?
Best,
Gerben
Since JStor seems to use different tags for browser export and direct search I decided to keep the old JStor filter next to the new one (renaming them Jstor Browser and JStor Online); I use the new filter at work and the old one at home. Perhaps it is an option to incorporate both in an update to account for all circumstances?
Best,
Gerben
A few things:
The way the browser accesses JSTOR and the SRU interface are very different.
A JSTOR filter for use with browsers will be reinstated in the next update.
I've had one thought that might (or might not) help with VPN access. I'll add it in the next update and we'll see.
Jon
Sonny Software
The way the browser accesses JSTOR and the SRU interface are very different.
A JSTOR filter for use with browsers will be reinstated in the next update.
I've had one thought that might (or might not) help with VPN access. I'll add it in the next update and we'll see.
Jon
Sonny Software
Last edited by Jon on Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
Gerben, your VPN access might also be selective: two of the university VPNs that I can access offer two profiles for accessing them. One only directs traffic targeted at things inside of the university’s domain through the VPN (to allow access to CD-ROM research databases or to networked volumes, for example) the other directs _all_ traffic through the VPN, so that even if you access an external site (like JSTOR) your traffic will go through the university network, thus giving you university access.
I thought I would just make this distinction clear, because I myself have been suffering from this not long ago.
One way to check if all of your traffic is routed through the university is to access a website like www.whatismyip.org without the VPN turned on and with the VPN turned on. You should have a different IP if you access the site through the VPN (on that comes from the university pool of IP addresses).
I thought I would just make this distinction clear, because I myself have been suffering from this not long ago.
One way to check if all of your traffic is routed through the university is to access a website like www.whatismyip.org without the VPN turned on and with the VPN turned on. You should have a different IP if you access the site through the VPN (on that comes from the university pool of IP addresses).
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Thanks.Jon wrote:A few things:
The way the browser accesses JSTOR and the SRU interface are very different.
A JSTOR filter for use with browsers will be reinstated in the next update.
I've had one thought that might (or might not) help with VPN access. I'll add it in the next update and we'll see.
Jon
Sonny Software
I'm clear that the SRU interface is a webservice - I'm only stymied because (I suspect) Bookends is getting blocked by a login page, which doesn't parse as a response. In feed readers, for example, I'm able to use the proxy because it passes through a login sheet to fill out. This may be more complexity than Bookends needs to handle - I don't NEED in-app JSTOR searching, it would just be a nice luxury. I'm also not certain if the UC method of handling off-campus proxies is anomalous, or is the wave of the future - my campus used a standard system-preferences configuration proxy until two years ago, then switched.