Multiple works, same author, Chicago style (newbie question)

[hrashid]

Greetings,

I've recently become a registered used of Bookends and am having a problem with bibliography generation.

For my dissertation I need to use Chicago style (14 or 15, doesn't matter). The style guide says that if a single author has multiple works, the bibliography should list them in date order, and use the author's name only once, otherwise using "--."

An example:

Doe, John. My First Book.
--. My Second Book.

What I'm getting instead is:

Doe, John. My First Book.
Doe, John. My Second Book.

I've tried all four flavors of the Chicago styles and none of them generate the bibliography in the necessary way.

I've spent most of the weekend going over the manual trying to see if there was a user-controllable setting. I tried playing with the "secondary output" field, but to no avail.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

[Jon]

Bookends won't do that...the author's names will be output in the bibliography each time. For footnotes you could do this using the secondary output field.

Jon
Sonny Software

[hrashid]

Thanks Jon.

Follow-up question. I've created a custom citation format based on Chicago 15A (C15A). Using the C15B to scan a document, the custom citation format works as it should. However, using the C15A (original file for bibliography) format, the custom citations do not work. I've compared the settings in the C15A and C15B bibliography settings, and they are identical.

[ozean]

I also would prefer to have my bibliography created so that multiple works by the same author can be preceded by customizable characters.

Would you consider adding this feature to a future update of Bookends? That would be awesome!

[Jon]

Thanks Jon.

Follow-up question. I've created a custom citation format based on Chicago 15A (C15A). Using the C15B to scan a document, the custom citation format works as it should. However, using the C15A (original file for bibliography) format, the custom citations do not work. I've compared the settings in the C15A and C15B bibliography settings, and they are identical.

I think this one will require custom tech support, so please contact me directly.

Thanks,

Jon
Sonny Software

[hrashid]

Hi Jon,

I figured out if I put the custom field in the Journal as well as the Book type, it all works. I was stymied because I'm not using any journal articles in the current chapter. However, Journal is the first type.

I don't know if this is a bug, or if the user guide just needs more clarity, but it was a pretty simple fix.

thanks.

[Jon]

I can't say without seeing your database, but the first Type (usually Journal) is defaulted to if you have other Types in your db that are not represented in the format. So if you had, say, a patent as a reference and not in the format, the patent would be formatted like a journal.

Don't know if this affected you or not, but that's the way it works.

Jon
Sonny Software

[hrashid]

Hi Jon,

It may be related, but I don't what you describe fits my situation. The particular chapter I'm working on only has "book" and "edited book" for types of references. I defined the secondary output for both types, but the custom formatting did not take. However, when I entered it in the "journal" type, it should up properly. I cut and past my code from "book" type into "journal" type to make sure it wasn't an error in entry on my part.

I don't know what's going on, but it seems like either my secondary output is not being recognized, so BE is defaulting to "journal" type, or the secondary field has to be defined in "journal" type for the others to take hold. I can do some more experimenting to limit one of the two options if it would help.

Regards,

[Jon]

I don't know what's going on, but it seems like either my secondary output is not being recognized, so BE is defaulting to "journal" type, or the secondary field has to be defined in "journal" type for the others to take hold. I can do some more experimenting to limit one of the two options if it would help.

Hi hrashid,

Perhaps you can send me your format and a small (zipped, please) database so that I can see what the problem is and fix it.

Thanks,

Jon
Sonny Software