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"et al." for editors?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:12 pm
by eleuteruiz
I have a reference type called "Edited Book Chapter", used to cite a chapter of an edited book: I use "author" field for the author and "editor" field for the book's editor/s.
When the book editors are more than 3, my required format (and common sense) says I should write only the first one and then "et al.".

Now, I could get the auto "et al." feature work in "author" field, but not in "editor". Bookends' User Guide says it "does not apply to the names of editors" (p. 124).

Is there any workaround to get this automatically done? (or perhaps I am missing something?...)

Thank you.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:20 pm
by Jon
No, sorry, et al. only applies to authors. You'll have to insert et al. manually in cases with editors that meet that criterion.

Jon
Sonny Software

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:29 am
by ozean
Are there any plans to change this?

Although I have participated in editing a 5-editor volume and therefore would be interested in always having all the editor's names spelled out ;) I think this might be not exactly a common case, but also not particularly rare…

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:33 am
by Jon
Is that so? Is it common to have editors (of a book where you are citing a chapter by an author) truncated with et al.? And if so, does it follow the same rules as for authors (e.g. when and where et al. is inserted)? I haven't run across this before, so I'm curious as to how common it is.

Jon
Sonny Software

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:50 am
by danzac
I too think this would be a good implementation for the future. In SBL style any book with more than three authors receives 'et al' in the footnote, but all of the authors are written out in the Bib.

[footnote]John F. Oates et al., eds., Checklist of Editions of Greek and Latin Papyri, Ostraca and Tablets (4th ed.; BASPSup 7; Atlanta: Scholars Press, 1992), 10.

[bib]Oates, John F., William H. Willis, Roger S. Bagnall, and Klaas A. Worp, eds. Checklist of Editions of Greek and Latin Papyri, Ostraca and Tablets. 4th ed.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:59 am
by Jon
This is true for editors and authors? What I'm getting at (all), is if the rules (where and when et al. is inserted) that apply to authors also apply to editors (when both use et al.).

Jon
Sonny Software

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:00 am
by Reiner
Jon wrote:Is that so? Is it common to have editors (of a book where you are citing a chapter by an author) truncated with et al.? And if so, does it follow the same rules as for authors (e.g. when and where et al. is inserted)? I haven't run across this before, so I'm curious as to how common it is.

Jon
Sonny Software
At least I can say in German publications this is not unusual. And yes, it follows the same rules as for authors.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:22 pm
by eleuteruiz
Jon wrote:Is that so? Is it common to have editors (of a book where you are citing a chapter by an author) truncated with et al.? And if so, does it follow the same rules as for authors (e.g. when and where et al. is inserted)?
It is also suggested in "The Chicago Manual of Style" (Chicago - London 2003), to be used when editors are more than 3.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:30 pm
by Jon
It's already done. You'll see it in 9.0.2.

Jon
Sonny Software

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:41 pm
by eleuteruiz
Great! Thank you!!

This is one of the many times I congratulate myself for having chosen Bookends! :D